Dorn Val
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2012.09.19 06:06:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Takeshi Yamato wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:For all those that are upset about the heavy missile nerf - we need one of the spreadsheet jockeys here to throw up a graph of DPS vs range for all four battlecruisers. Compare max skilled Drake with HML, navy missiles to a Ferox, Brutix, Hurricane, and harbinger (also with max skills) using the longest-range ammo. Ignore modules and rigs for now - we've seen both tank and gank varieties of all of the above.
Comparing raw DPS and range both before and after the changes, it becomes quite apparent why HML's are being brought in line with other weapons systems. They should provide consistent damage, certainly, but do not need to win both in maximum DPS within optimal AND a base range that exceeds the falloff of most of the long-range turrets.
It's hard to see with numbers on a page - but if you look at the damage curves, they tell the whole story. Something like this? http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/lrc.gifThis is with max skills, no other modules besides the weapons and long range ammo. Yes, exactly. Many thanks for providing this. As you can see in the graph, heavy missiles pretty much dominate this range class of weapons, with the only weapons system providing any advantage at all being railguns on a Ferox - and at a huge DPS hit to achieve this. If you run the same graph after the changes Fozzie is proposing, you will see that there are now actual advantages to using other weapons besides HML at these ranges.
Sorry for the long quote. I agree with you Hans: People should have to make trade offs when a ship is fitted. HMLs are pretty much a no brainer at present, with very little HAM use except for the ships that have specific bonuses to them. Add to that the relatively easy training time for missiles (since missiles are not divided by ship size the way other weapons are) and you pretty much have an "HML I win" button. Time for a change...
I'm much more excited about the Hurricane getting a power grid nerf -tired of running into a Cane that does more damage, and can neut more of my cap, than an Ashimu....
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